
Check out my guest contribution on educlaytion.com as part of his panel of awesome discussing the 1980s best movie villains. I selected Kreese, Johnny’s karate Sensei in The Karate Kid as the best villain and make a case for him as the movie’s true villain over Johnny. Read my guest contribution, and then come back here for additional Karate Kid and movie villain enlightenment.
If you’ve seen Karate Kid one time, I bet you’ll remember Johnny as the chief villain.
If you’ve seen Karate Kid many times, I bet you’ll know Kreese was the chief villain because you recognize Miyagi’s adage, “No bad student, only bad teacher.”
If you’ve seen Karate Kid zero times, I bet you don’t care.
I would rank The Karate Kid villains in the following order of villainy:
1. Kreese–taught children to strike first, strike hard, show no mercy. His hair is also excessively curly. Curly hair doesn’t make you a bad person, but I suspect his curl is of the perm variety, and the jury is still out on whether guys with perms are bad people.
2. Cobra Kai parents–when those moms stopped at the grocery store bulletin board and saw Kreese’s Show No Mercy Karate flyer, what was it in the ad that caught their eye? “I’ll teach your children to show no mercy and punch everything in sight, including short, elderly Japanese men.”
3. Dutch–played by Steve McQueen’s real life son. Kept trying to assert himself as an even bigger bully than Johnny, even though he had no horse in the beating up Daniel race. Daniel tried to concentrate his energy on Johnny, and then Dutch would jump out and pretend the bad blood was between Daniel and Dutch. I wish Daniel had said, “Which bully are you again? Remind me of your name.”
4. Kreese’s wife–never seen onscreen, never mentioned, actually no evidence he had a wife. But if he did, I’m sure she was a terrible person.
5. Vin Diesel—not in the movie, but a terrible, terrible actor.
6. Tommy–very weaselly looking. Yells my favorite Karate Kid line, “Put him in a body bag, Johnny!” followed by a high-pitched giggle. Any true Karate Kid fan can imitate this giggle.
7. Johnny–bullied Daniel, but in his defense he did warn Daniel to mind his own business multiple times when Daniel interrupted and inserted himself into Johnny’s argument with Ali, forcing Johnny to teach Daniel a three month lesson on the dangers of interrupting.
8. Daniel’s mom–inattentive, and drives a station wagon that stalls while chauffeuring Daniel on a date.
9. The soccer coach who kicked Daniel out of tryouts—Daniel’s crane kick could have won you the state soccer championship, you fool!
10. Freddy Fernandez—Daniel’s friend for one day until Daniel gets beat up on the beach, and Freddy leaves him there, effectively saying, “Sorry man, when we hit it off earlier and decided to be friends, I didn’t know you were gonna get beat up and stuff.”
11. Ali’s friends Susan and Barbara–incredibly snobbish and never in a clever way. I don’t like snobby, but I’ll give a point or two if you can turn a phrase well. Susan and Barbara are oblivious to the fact they aren’t pretty enough and don’t dress well enough to be so snobbish.
12. Friend of Freddy’s at the beach, friend of Daniel’s for about two hours—after Daniel gets beaten up, Freddy’s friend says sarcastically, “You sure pick cool friends, Freddy.” Yeah, Freddy, pick some friends who don’t choose to get themselves beaten up.
13. Ali–Daniel, all you know about her is her last boyfriend is a bully, and her best friends are terrible. She’s not a good judge of character, and you need to look in the mirror and ask what it means that she chose you.
14. Kids at beginning of movie who chase after Daniel’s car waving good-bye as he moves from New Jersey–these kids set a bad example by carelessly running into the street without looking both ways.
15. Old lady sitting in chair by swimming pool at beginning of movie—does nothing sinister in the movie, but brings down energy of the movie by reminding us we’ll all get old one day.
16. Daniel–invited bullying by not being richer and not dressing better.
17. Mr. Miyagi–for saying the crane kick, if done correctly, was indefensible, although it was defended successfully all fifty times I’ve tried it.
Let me know in the comments section if I’ve forgotten anybody.
marryin'thelibrarian
April 22, 2011
Also a villain: The pool guy at Daniel’s new apartment complex in California.
The Good Greatsby
April 22, 2011
That pool guy was terrible. If someone moves from Newark to California specifically for the pool, you better make sure the pool has water in it.
Renee Davies
April 22, 2011
I think number 4 is the truest villain. You know how in sinister movies, you don’t see the evil force creating havoc in the life of the protagonist? Or in mafia movies, how the kingpin is seldom seen?
As to number 13, that’s a gem of wisdom in a long list of funnies.
The Good Greatsby
April 22, 2011
I’m glad you agree Kreese’s off screen wife was one of the main villains. She rarely gets any credit.
Meet the Buttrams
April 22, 2011
This list is pretty exhaustive. I feel like Will Smith should be included for allowing his son to be in the remake.
The Good Greatsby
April 22, 2011
It still makes me angry that they remade the greatest movie of all time. I haven’t seen it yet, nor do I plan to.
pearlsandprose
April 22, 2011
Still laughing over number 15.
The Good Greatsby
April 22, 2011
That old lady is often overlooked as a villain, but she gives me problems.
thelifeofjamie
April 22, 2011
The guy who yells “Sweep the leg” in the last karate match (possibly Tommy) works with my husband. It takes all of my will power to not yell out “Sweep the leg!” whenever I see him!
The Good Greatsby
April 22, 2011
Really? Isn’t it Kreese who yells, “Sweep the leg.” Otherwise I bet it’s Tommy (Rob Garrison).
thelifeofjamie
April 23, 2011
I’m not sure which character he was- he looks SO different obviously…but his name is Ron in real life.
educlaytion
April 22, 2011
You have a wonderful brain. Thanks for the spectacular contribution.
While I’m here I just remember this video I made back when I was trying to learn some video editing and, ahem, copyright law stuff.
Anyway, the Karate Kid footage starts in around the 1 minute mark. Great villain footage.
The Good Greatsby
April 22, 2011
I admit I’ve cried when Daniel wins the match and looks over at Miyagi.
shreejacob
April 22, 2011
Wow! I think I’ve watched the movie a couple of times, but I can’t remember much…could the bonsai trees of Mr Miyagi be villains?
The Good Greatsby
April 23, 2011
Yes. Possibly. I’m not sure how, but I want to agree with you.
ellieswords
April 22, 2011
LOL. You have seen this movie a lot. And now I’m going to be sad when I see the villainous old lady reminding me of my fading youth.
What a great post!
The Good Greatsby
April 23, 2011
That old lady seldom receives a mention, and it’s about time she got some credit.
pegoleg
April 22, 2011
You’re missing the obvious first choice for bad guy: The Karate Kid’s agent for booking him on “Dancing With The Stars.”
The Good Greatsby
April 22, 2011
Are you serious? I didn’t know he’d been on “Dancing with the Stars.”
pegoleg
April 23, 2011
Serious as a fox-trot-induced heart attack. Can’t believe you did such a great straight man set-up for me. I am eternally grateful.
pegoleg
April 23, 2011
To clarify, he’s on the show right now (unless he was just voted off – I’m not following too closely).
The Good Greatsby
April 23, 2011
I’m not following too closely either, which you probably determined by the fact that I didn’t even know he was on the show.
spilledinkguy
April 23, 2011
But… Vin Diesel is one of the best actors of all time! He was amazing in Citizen Kane.
Tomato / tomahto, wax on / wax off, I guess.
🙂
The Good Greatsby
April 23, 2011
If Vin Diesel had been in Citizen Kane, I actually would be interested in seeing it.
spilledinkguy
April 24, 2011
Xanadu!
Lenore Diane
April 23, 2011
I don’t know how many times I’ve seen the movie, but this makes me want to see it again (and again).
The Good Greatsby
April 23, 2011
I’ve lost count, but I think I’ve seen it over thirty times, including one more time last night.
Spectra
April 23, 2011
How come no mention of the fly?
The fly clearly irritates poor old Mister Miyagi into such a state of rage that he commits murder by chopstick. That’s some serious sh** right there, I tell you.
It was a revelation to consider the Wife of Kreese…she was either irrepressibly evil, or living in an underground moving shelter system for battered women.
Some real “thought salad” here. (I’m trying to shed winter pounds, so there will be no having food for thought…not until bikini season passes, anyway)
The Good Greatsby
April 23, 2011
I like your term “thought salad”. I can get a lot of mileage from that.
Punchie
April 23, 2011
You forgot the scene in the beginning of the film- using the chopsticks to catch the buzzing fly that mocks Miyagi.
The fly, well versed in the bushido honor code, commits SEPPUKU by throwing himself right into Daniel’s chopsticks. Killing himself only to spite the old china man’s anger. That was cold, man.
If you turn up the audio you can hear a faint high pitched laughter that dies off quickly as the camera cuts to Pat Morita’s disgusted face. (I think they cut it out on the dvd transfer but it’s still on the laser disc version.)
Punchie
April 23, 2011
Damn Spectra beat me to it!
The Good Greatsby
April 23, 2011
The fly deserves to be on this list. I’m going to dust off the old VHS and see if I can hear that audio.
lifeintheboomerlane
April 23, 2011
I’m so out of the loop on this. But I know who Vin Diesel is and I have naturally curly hair.
The Good Greatsby
April 23, 2011
Curly hair is fine on women and acceptable on men as long as no perming was involved.
omawarisan
April 23, 2011
Vin Diesel is an actor?
The Good Greatsby
April 23, 2011
Allegedly.
Binky
April 23, 2011
I think #17 is probably your fault, for not doing it correctly. Practice, practice, practice!
The Good Greatsby
April 23, 2011
I was afraid somebody would say that. I didn’t want to believe it could be my fault.
Sandi Ormsby
April 24, 2011
Oh yea, it’s like CLUE.
Just when you’re sure of the obvious, it’s the not so obvious!
It all started with the “brick” at Ally’s parents (first date)…they didn’t like Daniel for kicking it off and for being poor…so they encouraged Johnny’s behavior (to kick the crap out of Daniel and steal Ally back)…and set up the whole fiasco at the restaurant where Johnny tries to kiss Ally, she hits him and sprains her wrist, and Daniel has to fight a plate of spaghetti and loses.
Her parents are the true Villians.
Did I win?
Sandi
http://www.ahhsome.wordpress.com
The Good Greatsby
April 24, 2011
I don’t want to excuse snobbery, but Daniel did himself no favors by kicking off that brick.
flippingchannels
April 24, 2011
I like number 11. There is a lot of douche-baggery in the world that could have been prevented by better taste in friends.
The Good Greatsby
April 24, 2011
It’s always so odd when you meet someone who likes you, but over time you realize you dislike everybody else in that person’s life. If this person only chooses bad friends and bad romantic partners, what does it say about me?
Denny DelVecchio
April 25, 2011
Fernandez.
Probably would have left Ryan Atwood in a bloody heap back in Newport Beach, as well.
The Good Greatsby
April 25, 2011
I guess friends should know better than to get beat up.
The Compulsive Writer
April 28, 2011
Gotta love Johnny. And your right, he did warn him. I particularly like the villain he played in Just One of The Guys… Greg Tolen.
Ray Hopkins
December 27, 2014
The cafeteria lady for not reporting Daniel as a schitzo who hears and talks to voices in his head to the teaching staff